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02:53:49<blackdog>tuukkah: sorry, lost my connection yesterday.
02:54:26<blackdog>I guess i'm asking both about library level and application level persistence... just wondering if there's a recommended path for doing persistence
02:55:33<blackdog>i'd rather not fight the library, basically.
02:55:54<blackdog>hooking it up directly to a db would seem a bad idea, for instance :)
04:03:34<blackdog>1
04:11:54<shapr>2
04:12:14<shapr>blackdog: You've got persistence automatically.
04:12:26<blackdog>shapr: really?
04:12:37<shapr>Yeah, look at the state directories that are created.
04:12:42<blackdog>yeah, sorry about that. fat fingers :)
04:12:51<shapr>If you have a state type, each transaction is serialized.
04:12:59<shapr>So you get all that and a bag of chips.
04:13:06<blackdog>ah, nice.
04:13:16<shapr>But right now this cute blonde chick is smacking me around encouraging me to watch more TV with her, so...
04:13:22<blackdog>heh
04:13:25<shapr>(ST:DS9)
04:13:33<blackdog>i'll ask you dumb questions another time then.
04:13:39<shapr>:-)
04:13:40<blackdog>say hello to the cute blonde for me
04:13:49<shapr>She's lookin at the screen :-)
04:14:19<blackdog>i'm not sure i'm comfortable with this level of disintermediation :P
04:14:36<shapr>c'mon, it's text chat!
04:14:56<shapr>We just missed the Decemberists in Atlanta btw
04:14:59<blackdog>ok, this is way beyond my needs right now, and shapr's buggering off anyway, but what about multiple boxes? Can i share state easily, issue incremental changes etc?
04:15:02<blackdog>oh, that sucks
04:15:05<blackdog>i'd love to see them
04:15:22<blackdog>i missed the dresden dolls the second time they came out to oz
04:15:27<shapr>Too bad
04:15:31<blackdog>stupid goths, jumping all over my bandwagon
04:15:51<blackdog>they're my band, dammit. you people don't appreciate them on as many levels as i do.
04:16:02<shapr>Oh, we missed Dresden Dolls a few weeks back too :-(
04:16:09<blackdog>where you people = indeterminate grouping of humans i deem unworthy
04:16:18<shapr>Hey you got me started with Dresden Dolls, Decemberists, etc
04:16:32<blackdog>it's good to know i've had a positive effect on somebody's life :)
04:16:37<shapr>Do you have a last.fm account?
04:16:44<blackdog>yeah, i think i do
04:16:49<shapr>Do you use it?
04:16:59<shapr>See mine - http://www.last.fm/user/shapr/
04:16:59<blackdog>i did
04:17:01<lambdabot>Title: shapr’s Music Profile &ndash; Users at Last.fm
04:17:05<blackdog>i think it might have been idle for a bit
04:17:19<shapr>What's the name?
04:17:52<blackdog>remain_in_light
04:18:18<shapr>Ah, just found it with images.google.com
04:18:22<blackdog>hm, nothing since may
04:18:31<shapr>Bah, I'm being abused, must watch TV
04:18:33<shapr>ttyl
04:19:21<blackdog>*grin* alright. later mate.
04:23:17<shapr>yarr
04:23:30<shapr>Intro for the next episode is showing...
04:23:53<shapr>blackdog: multiple box code is in the near future.
04:24:19<shapr>Like, probably in the next week or three.
04:24:42<shapr>I'm not sure what you mean by incremental changes.
04:24:51<shapr>ACTION goes back to DS9
04:25:24<blackdog>well, you have incremental changes in state, right
04:25:47<blackdog>is backing up the state just a matter of copying the state file to another machine?
04:26:01<blackdog>and is it in a format that sending a diff makes sense?
04:27:50<blackdog>(also: according to last.fm, we have very low musical compatibility...)
04:29:35<blackdog>urgh. why do people think it's ok to write shitty C?
05:05:39<shapr>d00d
05:05:48<shapr>blackdog: I don't have musical compatibility with anyone.
05:06:05<shapr>blackdog: I noticed that my last.fm neighbors don't have me as neighbors.
05:06:07<shapr>I'm just an alien :-(
05:08:59<blackdog_>yeah, you're a weirdo :)
05:09:16<blackdog_>seriously, though
05:09:25<blackdog_>why do people write dumb C code?
05:09:33<blackdog_>it's cut-and-paste crap
05:09:44<blackdog_>maybe two lines different in a 30 line function
05:09:57<blackdog_>and this is a reasonably big, serious, well-used open source library
05:10:12<blackdog_>how do they not get laughed out of the source repo?
05:11:38<blackdog_>i think haskell has made me intolerant :(
05:12:28<shapr>Why do people write C?
05:12:31<shapr>I still don't understand.
05:12:49<blackdog_>because they're MANLY
05:13:02<shapr>I'm not a masochist.
05:13:09<blackdog_>i'm edging closer and closer to just rewriting the algorithm in haskell
05:13:32<blackdog_>whip me, beat me, make me chase pointers
13:47:53<shapr>Yarr!
13:48:35<kaol>ACTION hoists the flag
14:28:44<shapr>ACTION looks for booty
14:32:06<kfish>ACTION pours bourbon and warms up the jukebox
14:42:17<shapr>jiihaa
16:08:22<shapr>Hiya
17:48:30<shapr>YOW!
23:30:42<cdsmith>Hey! Anyone know where darcs repo is for the "generic-xml" dependency that HAppS now depends on?
23:36:59<fxr>cdsmith: hackage db?
23:37:36<fxr>@where generic-xml
23:37:36<lambdabot>I know nothing about generic-xml.
23:37:58<fxr>@where generic-xml http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/generic-xml
23:37:58<lambdabot>I know nothing about generic-xml.
23:38:04<fxr>@where+ generic-xml http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/generic-xml
23:38:04<lambdabot>Done.
23:39:01<cdsmith>fxr: that doesn't seem to give a darcs repo, though. Do you know if one exists?
23:40:29<fxr>cdsmith: I'm sorry, generic-xml-0.1 is enough to compile happs. I don't know the repo url.
23:40:48<cdsmith>Okay, no problem.
23:41:06<Igloo>http://www.happs.org/HAppS/generic-xml/
23:41:22<cdsmith>Igloo: thanks!
23:42:23<cdsmith>@where syb-with-class
23:42:23<lambdabot>I know nothing about syb-with-class.
23:47:10<cdsmith>@where default
23:47:10<lambdabot>I know nothing about default.

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