Experimental IRC log happs-2007-08-17

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05:46:35<shapr>wheee!
05:48:36<vegai>howdy
05:49:02<shapr>hiya!
05:51:59<stepcut>yay!
05:53:30<shapr>ACTION boings
05:53:41<shapr>Bah, xslt is frustrating. I'm giving up and going to sleep.
05:53:42<stepcut>ACTION blings
05:53:46<stepcut>heh
08:35:05<tuxplorer>I would like to learn the XSLT based approach to do HAppS programming. But the HAppS tutorial in the wiki gives examples only about the HTML printing method.. Pls suggest some other good tutorial to do it the XSLT way.. (PS: Sorry abt cross posting. But ppl seemed to be inactive in #haskell)
08:53:46<kfish>hi tuxplorer
08:54:37<tuxplorer>hi kfish
08:54:41<kfish>i don't know anything about xslt with happs, but i'm not inactive!
08:54:51<tuxplorer>kfish: :D
08:57:04<kfish>shapr was working on xslt stuff earlier, but claims he's asleep now
08:57:47<tuxplorer>:)
13:55:01<shapr>@yarr!
14:05:25<tuxplorer>hi shapr!
14:17:58<shapr>hiya!
14:18:20<shapr>I don't think there's an xslt tutorial yet, but there should be working code out there soon.
14:25:43<tuxplorer>shapr: ok. if there is some working code, plz send me the link..
14:25:52<tuxplorer>i mean, once it is out..
14:26:19<shapr>When the HAppS-Begin repo is out, it'll have this sort of stuff.
14:26:52<shapr>The syb-with-class xml code turns a Haskell value directly into xml, and then we use xslt to format that xml.
14:27:49<tuxplorer>shapr: kewl..
14:28:40<tuxplorer>shapr: can i take a look at the current state of the repo? can you gimme the link?
14:28:47<shapr>It's not public yet.
14:28:58<shapr>It will be soon.
14:29:18<tuxplorer>shapr: oh! ok..
17:35:42<shapr>hiya alexj
17:47:09<alexj>hey shapr
17:50:03<shapr>alexj: I think you're having network problems.
17:50:26<alexj>shapr: tyring again now.
17:50:42<alexj>can you see me on jabber?
17:50:45<shapr>nope
20:59:18<shapr>hiya Vq^
20:59:27<Vq^>hej formarn
20:59:31<shapr>Wassup?
21:00:13<Vq^>some stars
21:00:19<shapr>Stars are good.
21:00:35<Vq^>at least they don't do much harm
21:00:38<shapr>yeah
21:07:46<Vq^>the tarball for HAppS-0.8.8 seems to contain a directory only called HAppS, don't they usually contain the version?
21:26:07<shapr>Well, we'll have new source out soon.
23:14:39<blackdog1>...excel?
23:15:35<blackdog1>shapr: promise? :)
23:16:19<shapr>@yow !
23:16:23<shapr>Promise what?
23:16:35<blackdog1>happs src :)
23:16:46<shapr>Oh, yeah.. sometime soon
23:16:53<shapr>The blog example nearly works!
23:17:01<stepcut>awesome
23:17:11<blackdog1>i'm attending rails meetings and going crazy - it's so beautifully usable, yet so dumb at the same time...
23:17:35<blackdog1>i had an idea for doing rails-style database introspection with TH and HaskellDB
23:17:40<shapr>heh
23:17:44<shapr>Sounds interesting
23:17:45<blackdog1>not sure if it's doable yet.
23:17:58<shapr>You're doing rails for a living these days?
23:18:13<blackdog1>pretty much
23:18:17<blackdog1>contracting two days a week
23:18:40<blackdog1>sydney's not that expensive to live in if you share a house
23:18:50<shapr>Living with some cute chick?
23:19:03<blackdog1>no, no. i value my independence.
23:19:14<blackdog1>may be moving soon, though
23:19:17<shapr>I value my independence. But I value my chick more.
23:19:20<blackdog1>currently living with 4 other people.
23:19:26<blackdog1>it's a bit much.
23:19:45<shapr>Yeah, I live alone.. it's not enough.
23:19:53<shapr>Wish I were living with my chick..
23:19:59<blackdog1>yeah, i wouldn't want to do that
23:20:06<blackdog1>i go into hermit mode too easily
23:20:12<Igloo>blackdog1: I was playing with something like that, but needed GADT syntax support in TH
23:20:13<shapr>I applied for a Swedish permit about a month ago, should hear from them in the next five month sometime
23:20:24<shapr>Igloo: Hard to do?
23:20:31<shapr>Igloo: You're one of the main TH guys!
23:20:45<shapr>Oh man, I had a questions specifically for Igloo.. what was it.. hmm
23:20:46<Igloo>No, but when I brought it up people started talking about redesigning the whole API
23:20:52<shapr>aiee!
23:21:03<blackdog1>heh
23:21:09<shapr>Why not just hack it in under the radar, release it and don't tell anybody?
23:21:39<shapr>I mean, they won't fire you, will they?
23:21:46<blackdog1>Igloo: why did you need GADTs?
23:21:47<shapr>blackdog1: wrong channel
23:21:55<shapr>EMISCHAN
23:22:21<blackdog1>yep. i'm having huge problems with split windows in irssi at the moment...
23:22:26<shapr>Try ERC!
23:22:42<shapr>Oh, I got a spiffy new computer, dual core 2400MHz with 1mb cache on each core.
23:22:42<blackdog1>very embarrassing, especially when there's a good chance i'll be dissing rails in a haskell channel :P
23:22:45<blackdog1>hm, maybe
23:22:45<shapr>haha
23:22:54<blackdog1>oh, very nice
23:22:56<shapr>@quote blackdog
23:22:59<shapr>hmm
23:23:02<blackdog1>i'm about to buy myself a macbook pro, i think
23:23:07<shapr>@quote blackdog
23:23:08<lambdabot>blackdog says: I'm not encouraged by the comment "i don't know haskell, but CL is much better", though. it doesn't suggest careful thought and objectivity...
23:23:10<shapr>@quote blackdog
23:23:11<lambdabot>blackdog says: My variables aren't varying.
23:23:12<shapr>@quote blackdog
23:23:12<lambdabot>blackdog says: i think coding in your sleep should trigger an exception
23:23:15<shapr>ACTION grins
23:23:24<blackdog1>i'm a snarky SOB, aren't i...
23:23:24<shapr>Oh, I remember the Igloo question now.
23:23:34<shapr>Yeah, but it's a high quality snarky :-)
23:24:01<shapr>Seriously, when I want an in-depth critique with no punches pulled, but no unnecessary pain, I email you first :-)
23:24:27<blackdog1>dude, stop. i'll blush.
23:25:03<shapr>I doubt it ;-)
23:26:13<Igloo>blackdog1: http://urchin.earth.li/~ian/desc.txt
23:26:36<blackdog1>thanks igloo
23:26:54<shapr>blackdog1: Do you ever miss the PhD days?
23:27:07<blackdog1>a little.
23:27:24<shapr>Just curious.
23:27:26<blackdog1>but mostly for hanging out with don, pete gammie and andre...
23:27:28<shapr>heh
23:27:34<shapr>But only pete is left.
23:27:37<shapr>So...
23:27:44<blackdog1>it's nice being surrounded by smart people in person
23:27:47<Igloo>Is that the Pete who was briefly at Chalmers?
23:27:49<shapr>Yup
23:27:50<shapr>same pete
23:27:52<blackdog1>actually, pete is in vietnam now
23:27:55<shapr>oh
23:27:56<Igloo>What's Andre doing now?
23:27:59<shapr>CSIRO
23:28:04<Igloo>Blesss you
23:28:06<shapr>hah
23:28:17<blackdog1>pete's doing websites for a disability organisation
23:28:22<shapr>http://www.csiro.au/
23:28:28<blackdog1>he spends a lot of time mailing me about how retarded PHP and Rails are :)
23:28:34<shapr>Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO)
23:37:31<Igloo>Sounds fun

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