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00:29:23<mightybyte>markluffel: That templating engine looks good. Thanks.
00:30:20<mightybyte>Hmmm, the darcs commands on the happs.org main page appear to be wrong. It looks like it should be "--tag=0.9.1.2".
00:36:02<Saizan>right, or alex forgot to add a later tag
01:37:08<vagif>hello, where can i find a recent up to date happs tutorial ?
01:37:17<vagif>i installed happs with sp
01:40:23<mightybyte>vagif: I don't think an up-to-date tutorial exists right now.
01:43:33<mightybyte>I've been having trouble getting the latest version of happs installed. The dependencies are killing me. How is this typically done?
01:44:28<vagif>mightybyte: sp worked flawlessly for me. And i'm a complete noob both in linux and haskell
01:44:36<mightybyte>What's sp?
01:44:41<vagif>searchpath
01:44:47<mightybyte>Ahhh
01:44:57<mightybyte>What OS are you using?
01:45:02<vagif>archlinux
01:45:43<mightybyte>Hmmm, the archlinux ISO just finished downloading :)
01:46:38<mightybyte>Did searchpath come as a package on archlinux or did you install it manually?
01:46:55<vagif>if there are no tutorials, can anyone provide a simple hello world like example. increment/decrement with stroing current value in session state would be perfect
01:47:13<vagif>you simply download it, it is a 1 file
01:47:18<vagif>and complie
01:47:22<mightybyte>Check out http://happs.org/repos/HAppS-HTTP/Examples/AllIn.hs
01:47:32<mightybyte>It is linked to from happs.org
01:48:26<vagif>ok, what do i do with it ? where do i save it and how do i run it ?
01:48:40<mightybyte>I haven't gotten that far. :)
01:48:53<mightybyte>You should be able to compile it normally.
01:49:17<vagif>ok, i'll play with it. thx
01:49:28<mightybyte>I would assume something like "ghc --make AllIn.hs -o allin"
07:45:16<vegai>http://reddit.com/r/programming/info/669rt/comments/c02yyad
07:45:52<vegai>malcontent is a fun troll
07:46:01<vegai>I wish he got some new things to say, though
07:46:13<kaol>"Those guys are ten times smarter then the ROR developers (who are retarded) and haskell is ten times more productive then ruby."
07:59:07<perspectivet>geez, reposting a troll feeding session
07:59:24<perspectivet>nobody want's to see that. trolls are disgusting when they eat.
08:10:12<vegai>reposting?
08:11:43<perspectivet>s/reposting/linking/
08:13:51<perspectivet>trust a haskell hacker to dissect the semantics of a bad joke
08:15:24<vegai>ACTION smirks
09:07:55<sizur>if i need to code a webservice, would i use HaXml or is thre something more suitable?
09:13:10<vegai>perhaps http://www.haskell.org/haxr/
09:13:23<vegai>that's outside HAppS, though
09:14:36<sizur>you recomend that over happs?
09:15:45<vegai>depends on what you need, really
09:16:11<sizur>rest based service follows the kiss principle, but one still should use xml with the rest request/response
09:18:56<sizur>openomy has a very nice architecture going on where they integrate internal rest webservices. this frees the company from depending on any one technology (aside from the web). i want my company to go the same route.
09:20:34<vegai>json is one option too, by the way
09:20:35<sizur>and ofcourse i want to have my services in haskell ;) for now. so i'm looking at what's the best way to work with xml (consume, produce)
09:20:45<sizur>yeah that's viable
09:21:07<sizur>that's a good choice too
09:22:09<sizur>there is not much difference between the two, except you can have DTDs with xml
09:23:38<vegai>I've seen some platforms to have oddly sucky xml implementations
09:23:48<vegai>so much that it has become a bottleneck early
09:26:25<sizur>wsdl is another benefit of xml over json
09:42:21<sizur>json is simple enough to implement on any platform, that's a big plus
10:25:32<sizur>ok, binary package should be good for json webservice implementation.
10:26:54<sizur>with restriction for reqests to be of a fixed format
15:24:00<mightybyte>I'm trying to build HApps-Util, and it needs mtl and hslogger. But after "cabal install mtl hslogger", it still doesn't seem to see them. Any ideas?
15:25:29<daniel_larsson>Are they installed globally, or just in your user?
15:25:35<mightybyte>Globally.
15:25:35<daniel_larsson>mtl and hslogger I mean
15:25:39<daniel_larsson>Hmm ok
15:25:55<mightybyte>I ran "cabal install..." as root.
15:25:57<daniel_larsson>so you see them running ghc-pkg --list
15:26:22<daniel_larsson>ghc-pkg list
15:26:51<mightybyte>Yes, but they are shown under /root/.ghc
15:27:16<mightybyte>I take it I need to give some other option to cabal install?
15:27:25<daniel_larsson>Aha, so I guess you installed them for user root, not globally. Should be some option to cabal install, yes
15:27:41<daniel_larsson>I'm not an expert on that tool, so I don't know what option it would be
15:28:27<mightybyte>Ok, I'm looking.
15:53:47<sizur>mightybyte: you might get a problem with installing something else as user because you ran cabal-install as root, the local user lib directory might have been created as root
15:53:52<sizur>i had this problem

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